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Still a link to create pages in "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/"?[edit]

Is there still a link somewhere for editors to create pages starting with the "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/" prefix? Just wondering since this was created a few hours ago, brand new, at a "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/" title. (I later moved the page.) Steel1943 (talk) 03:25, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Steel1943, the user in question wrote a draft in '13 in the WP:...creation/ space, which was subsequently deleted as G13. Methinks they've now come back and just clicked the link on their user page. Primefac (talk) 03:46, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
@Primefac: Yeah, those G13s ... they getcha. Steel1943 (talk) 04:10, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
I undeleted a G13 yesterday (per WP:REFUND) that was in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/... I immediately moved it to Draftspace and added a note to the REFUND message giving the editor new location. I also left the redirect intact, but now I'm wondering whether we should perhaps "expire" such redirects at some point? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:04, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Elections for New Page Patrol/New Page Review coordinators.[edit]

The election is now open for voters. Voting has now begun for two NPP/NPR coordinators and will remain open until 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. All registered, confirmed editors are welcome to vote. Please vote HERE. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:11, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Quick-fail criteria?[edit]

Where are the quick-fail criteria listed? Our reviewing instructions tell us "Before reading a submission in detail, check whether it meets any of the quick-fail criteria. If so, it should be declined immediately and in some cases it may be necessary to nominate the submission for speedy deletion". But "quick-fail criteria" is not linked. I think it should be. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:44, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Justlettersandnumbers, it's bullet 5.1. Primefac (talk) 19:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Of course it is – thanks, Primefac! I should have thought to look behind that pink bar, how dumb can you get? Just in passing: the page layout leaves a good deal to be desired – that bar is pushed off the bottom of my screen by the graphic. Might it be better placed directly below the section title?
So, next question: what is supposed to happen to drafts quick-failed because the article already exists? Do we just leave them to rot until they are eligible for G13? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:28, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Hmm, I'll see about the layout. As for your second question - I generally decline as "existing" and let it reach G13. Occasionally I might just turn it into a redirect, depending on how much detail is in the main article. Primefac (talk) 13:32, 27 February 2017 (UTC)1
The "Exists" decline actually instructs the submitter to work on the existing article, though very few ever actually do so. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Alberto Sicilia-Falcon[edit]

requesting artical about: Alberto Sicilia-Falcon

name found from: — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

@ You are unlikely to get any action on your request here. You might have better luck asking on the Talk page of WP:WikiProject Cuba. NewYorkActuary (talk) 22:38, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Review mechanism?[edit]

Do we have any mechanism or process for inviting review of acceptances after the fact? I've no desire to criticise or even to question an able and active reviewer, but I'm perturbed by the acceptance of Americo Makk in a state that – in my opinion – will require many, many hours of volunteer editor time to remedy. It seems to me that the page should have been left in draft space until it bore at least some faint resemblance to a Wikipedia article. But perhaps I'm just plain wrong about that. Would anyone care to take a look? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:51, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Some editors have a bright-line rule regarding AFC - if it'll pass AFD, regardless of how much it needs work, it gets accepted. On the other hand, if it won't pass AFD, they nominate it for deletion. There's not much we can do other than tag the page and/or alert the relevant WikiProject(s). Primefac (talk) 19:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

A general question[edit]

Greetings all. I've noticed an editor who has been submitting other editors' drafts (one in particular was edited very recently), and then immediately reviewing & declining the submission. Is this the correct procedure? Regards Exemplo347 (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Are we talking about a draft that was submitted by its creator when it was still located at a sub-page of the creator's user page? If so, moving it into Draft space (and then declining) strikes me as an appropriate thing for a reviewer to do. But if we're talking about a reviewer who submitted the draft before the creator thought it was ready, that's a whole different story. Which of these are you seeing? NewYorkActuary (talk) 22:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
They were drafts, in Draft space, that had been edited very recently (one within 8 days, one the previous day). Exemplo347 (talk) 22:56, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Well, that does seem odd. I can only suggest asking the reviewer why they did it. NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:11, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Will do. I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason! Thanks Exemplo347 (talk) 23:14, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

WP:FFU wizard[edit]

Following instructions at Wikipedia talk:Files for upload, I asked this question at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk, but the responding editor brushed me off, so I guess I have to come here. I hope you're more interested in helping than in telling me to bug off.

I wanted to ask for someone to upload a better resolution of a {{PD-logo}} image, File:Ss logo.png, but it was really hard to navigate the wizard because it kept trying to send me to Commons to upload there (I at first missed the "If you don't have an account, you can upload without registering" line). I eventually had to pretend that it was a non-free image and go through the whole process needlessly. Instead of asking at the start "are you autoconfirmed" and "is it free," could you instead put Wikipedia:Files for upload/Wizard/Search as the landing page, and then ask license questions only if someone's trying to upload a new image? If you try to upload a new version of the same image, copyright shouldn't be quite as much of a concern for the wizard, because the old version of the image should already have the right copyright tagging, and the new upload should have the same copyright status as what's already there. (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


Why does get so much vandalism on it? Ethanbas (talk) 23:35, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2017[edit]

Please lets start a section entitled '1.Linkage between Shaivism and Buddhism, 2.Linkage between Shaivism and Confucianism, 3. Linkage between Shaivism and Christianity, 4. Linkage between Shaivisma and Islam, and 5. Linkage between Shaivism and other theoretical philosophies like Structuralism, Functionalism, Marxism,Feminism,Socialism, Capitalism etc. (talk) 04:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC) (talk) 04:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, IP address. You probably should be having this discussion on the Talk page of the Shaivism article. NewYorkActuary (talk) 06:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

2017-18 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball season article[edit]

Please save this article from being deleted I don't want to see it gone. (talk) 16:54, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - moved to Draft:2017–18 NCAA Division I men's basketball season. Primefac (talk) 17:20, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Question about manually reviewing (AFC)[edit]

Is it an option to manually review articles that are submitted for review (via AFC)? I have heard it mentioned before. If so, is it welcomed by designated reviewers and higher ups (ie admins)? I want to help lower the size of the queue if at all possible. I would apply for the reviewer rights/group however I have not been here for the 90 days (I have been here for 1 month and 27 days) required to apply, but do have the edit count. If you aren't sure, could you maybe tag someone who could answer? Thanks! --TheSandDoctor (talk) 19:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

TheSandDoctor, there's nothing saying that non-AFCH users can't review pages, but we're quickly getting to the point where only those users can review pages. AFC is being merged into WP:NPR, so while I applaud your enthusiasm, I must encourage you to wait a bit until you meet the requirements to use the tools. Primefac (talk) 12:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
@Primefac: thank you for the response and I shall do so. I was just hoping to help cut down the queue in the mean time. Do you know when it will be fully merged? --TheSandDoctor (talk) 22:26, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I do not, as I am not running point on that. Others who know more do watch this page, but they might not have seen this thread yet. Primefac (talk) 02:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
@Primefac: Does the new page reviewer user group/right have access to the reviewing tools at this point or? I am asking as I am wondering what to apply under once I do meet the requirements. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 21:22, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Anyone who makes it into NPR will also meet the specifications for joining the AFCH helper list. Primefac (talk) 12:17, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@Primefac: So anyone who makes NPR would just add their names to the list? --TheSandDoctor (talk) 22:24, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes. Primefac (talk) 22:32, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Combining AfC reviewers and new page reviewers[edit]

There is an ongoing discussion about combining AfC reviewers into the new page reviewer user right. Your comments and opinions would be welcome. ~ Rob13Talk 03:24, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Not exactly combining. The proposal is that AfC reviewers will have to apply for NPP rights to be able to continue reviewing at AfC. NPP reviewers will not need to apply for AfC approval. StarryGrandma (talk) 11:57, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

RfC: Draft classifier template[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Drafts#RfC: Draft classifier template to add an information label to AfC and non-AfC drafts. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

When is the next Drive?[edit]

When is the next drive scheduled? There hasn't been one for a while L3X1 (distant write) 04:56, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Table width[edit]

When viewing Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Submissions, the tables displaying the number of entries in each category by date stretches beyond the normal page width. Is there a better way to display this information, perhaps vertically? ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:30, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Another Believer, I've modified the table so it's split onto two rows. That should fix the issue. Not sure how I like the display, but it's not going over the pagewidth. Primefac (talk) 12:34, 20 March 2017 (UTC)